Notes from a Democracy



To Re-Vote or Not to Re-Vote

The race in the democratic party has been extremely close as we all know. To add more confusion to the nominee process comes along the issue of whether people who casted Democrat votes in Florida and Michigan will be allowed to re vote. The problem started when lawmakers in Michigan decided to push up their primary voting date to January instead of waiting until after Super Tuesday as they were scheduled to vote. Senator Obama asked for his name to be taken off of the ticket in these states because he felt they were breaking the rules of the party, Clinton’s name remained. The National Democrat Convention now faces the issue of whether or not they should allow these two states to re-vote in the primaries or since the rules were broken not count these votes at all. Obama is saying they should not be allowed to re-vote while Clinton is saying they should and has accused her opponent of being “un-american” for saying otherwise. Do you feel that the states of Florida and Michigan should be allowed to re-vote? Do you agree with the stance of Obama or Clinton? How do you feel about Clinton’s claims that Obama is being “un-american”?


Comments

  1. kjohns40 says:

    I do not think that they should be able to revote. They mess up and they have to go under the consequences. They should not be able to and Senator Clinton wants to because she knows that she needs the votes

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  2. deespencer says:

    I had heard of this but did not know the full extent to what was actually going on. Thanks for the clarification. Well to answer your first question I do feel as though the first states of Florida and Michigan should be allowed to vote because it’s Obama that does not want them to vote and if anything it is hurting Obama further because he was not included in the first round of votes. Clinton should be the one arguing for there not to be re-votes because she needs to try and keep all the votes that she can keep. Secondly, I feel Clinton’s claim that Obama is being “un-American” is a crazy comment. Understandably, keeping the American people from one of our newfound freedom’s of voting isn’t necessarily right; however, calling someone “un-American” who is your component I feel is just a stab below the belt to make them look bad. However, in the end I do feel as though that Michigan and Florida should be able to re-vote. It is not the people’s fault for Michigan moving up their primary vote and Obama did the right thing by taking his name off of the ballot because he wanted things to be done right and correctly.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  3. mssamuels says:

    Long story short neither of the states followed the guidelines and precursors to having a legitamit primary and dispersion of delegates. Because of this the votes don’t count, period. The candidates and state legislatives were away of this and when ahead to not follow directions. As we say here at Spelman College, “reading is fundamental”…and more so to follow directions

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  4. jaustin1 says:

    I really dont know the rules about re-voting so I cant say whether Michigan and Florida should be allowed to re-vote or not. I do think that since Obama feels it neccessary to take his name off the ticket that it must be some issue. I like the fact that Obama is standing up for what he thinks is right. I don’t know why Clinton thinks Obama is un-american, and for her to say that is a “low blow.”

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  5. deespencer says:

    Roxanne you always have the funniest blunt comments. Love em

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  6. shari141986 says:

    I think that they should allow the states to re-vote because I do feel that it is unfair to just simply discredit the votes of the people of those states. It wasn’t their faults that their “lawmakers” decided to change the dates of the voting…which in itself seem extremely sketchy to me. I applaud Obama for removing his name from the ballots because it was an unfair decision that was made by the lawmakers to do this. As far as Clinton’s remarks…she’s annoying and I’m tired of hearing her bickering.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  7. aanthony says:

    Actually find it quite odd the Obama is the one saying not to revote if he was the candidate who was not on the ballot it seems like it would give Clinton an unfair advantage. I don’t think that it was him being un american I feel that his whole point is that people need to be able to have the chance to vote therefore the state shouldn’t be able to just change the voting date for there convience without seeing how it affected others. I do agree with Clinton on the idea that they should be able to revote this way everyone would have the opportunity to vote for the candiadate that they truly feel deserve the position not just choosing the only person on the ballot.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  8. destineemoore says:

    I agree with Obama. No they should not be allowed to re vote. Lawmakers made the decision to change the date and should not be allowed to play these games in the primaries and go back and forth about their vote. Some people missed the deadline for absentee ballots and Im sure they want the opportunity to re vote but it doesnt work that way and no one gets special treatment. Hilary is making a fool of herself as usual.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  9. scaldwe3 says:

    I think that they should be allowed to revote. Especially since their primary was pushed up then normal, because more than likely their administration decided to do that without asking the people of Michigan what they wanted. In addition since Obama’s name was not on the ballot I also think that his supporters should have a chance to vote.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  10. Thanks for the “reading is fundamental” shout out! :)

    I think that if a state breaks the rules of the party, it should accept the consequences laid out by the party. And I also agree that it’s very unfortunate that this has become yet another issue that Clinton and Obama are using to take stands against each other. This primary race has gone on so long … I’m starting to feel concerned that the party will be weakened in its preparation for the November election.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  11. mswiley says:

    I believe when this was an issue at the beginning of the political races, it was agreed upon by all democrats that they were not going to place their names on the ballot, but I guess not since Hillary decided to go along.

    I think that shows what types of candidates we are dealing with. Clinton is showing the public that she’s “all for the people” but she is also proving to the public that laws/rules are meant to be broken. If there was a set date for their primary they should follow that set date as it was mandated.

    Obama is taking a stance, I do not in any way believe that he thinks their votes will put him out of the race but I think he is continuing his traditions of standing behind what he believes.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  12. timilebrown says:

    WOW! This is another example of Obama’s astonishing integrity and Hillary’s cut-throat tactics to discredit Obama. I think that it is honorable that despite the fact that Obama would be losing potential votes, that he took his name off the ballot for those states because he felt that they wouldn’t be able to support him due to the issues he is addressing, and also asking that they not be allowed to re-vote because of the same issue. Hillary is just threatened by Obama’s integrity and is trying all that she can to distort his every move. Shame on her!

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  13. deespencer says:

    Either Obama or Clinton to win. If McCain gets in office we are going to be a war fighting poor economic country. Either way we need a Democrat in office. I’m so tired of everything happening and all of this controversial drama occuring within the Democratic party. Argh… white woman, black man, clinton’s husband cheated, Michele isn’t supporting enough, two states didn’t vote the way they were supposed to, one of Clinton’s superdelagates cheated on his wife so she lost that vote, Obama’s pastor said some not so helpful comments, etc. JEEZ

    Sorry had a moment

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  14. ycooper says:

    I believe that the states should be allowed to vote again. The fault does not lie with the citizens of these states, it lies with the lawmakers. They were the ones who broke the rules and the people should not be punished for something they had no control over. Therefore, the people should be given the right to vote for the same candidates as other states were, including Obama (if they choose to).
    I’m not sure why Obama is so offended by the act that he would want his name taken off the ballot. I hate to side with Hillary (STILL LOVE YA OBAMA!) but she wasn’t entirely mistaken when she said Obama was being “un-american” because by not wanting these states to re-vote he is trying to take away the democratic process that our nation is founded on.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  15. destineemoore says:

    I definitely agree Timile. Hilary tries to hide the fact that she is threatened by making sly remarks.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  16. mswiley says:

    Hillary either way will be a step above w/ those residents b/c now she has made Obama seem to not care about their votes, so if they do get a re-vote, Clinton might draw some Obama supporters based on the fact that he ‘didn’t want their voices heard’…

    I agree w/ Shari, I’m tired of Hillary’s nonsense, she needs to get it together if she’s trying to be in office(as vice-president)

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  17. timilebrown says:

    Scaldwe3, I agree with you. If those states are allowed to re-vote, it should be to give the people the chance to support who they want. You can’t take away a person’s right to support who they want as their president. The state is not the people. So if the state made a stupid decision, the people shouldn’t have to suffer because of it. That would be a clear violation of their rights. We’d be telling them that their votes literally won’t count!

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  18. ctaylor18 says:

    I agree with Obama…the states did not follow the rules why should they be allowed to re-vote…her we go again with this voting situation. I mean come on WHEN WILL WE GET IT RIGHT! Vote when u r supposed to…its interesting that Obama doesnt want a re-vote especially since his name was not on the ballot. I would that he should want one…maybe he just doesnt want to count those states at all..hmmm. He isn’t being un-american…what does that even mean. This whole kiddy I call u a name thing is really starting to irritate me. He is not being un-american as Clinton says, he is being just. When you don’t follow the rules there are consequences; though I still think he should want a re-vote especially since his name isnt on the ballot

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  19. mswiley says:

    I don’t think Obama is disenfranchising people, because they had the opportunity to vote but they just needed to do it when they were suppose to.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  20. ycooper says:

    I agree with Dr. Price that all the petty bickering between Hillary and Obama is eventually going to weaken the Democratic party as a whole. Someone (cough *Hillary* cough) needs to step down and allow the other candidate to become the nominee and gain support for the Democratic party

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  21. jasmine2000 says:

    I think that Florida and Michigan’s breaking of the rules is un-American and un-patriotic and I feel that they should be penalized and not awarded a second chance because we need to make sure states know that doing such things that go against the party rules and that they should stop such practices in elections especially considering all the problems we have been having in trying to hold fair elections for the past few presidential elections. However, considering the circumstances and how tight the race is we may have to have them re-vote, but some sort of sanctions should be taking against these two states in future elections.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
  22. bogarro says:

    While I agree with Clinton that these two states should be able to re-vote, I do not feel that Obama is being “un-american.” It was “un-american” to move the date up without the agreement of everyone. If these two states are given the opportuinity to vote with Obama’s name on the ticket, both candidates will be able to get an idea of how many supporters they have, an addition of delegates, and if they are capable of winning those states in the bigger election. If those two states are dropped, there is no foreshadow to who might win that state in the long run and candidates may or may not be equipped to persuade voters in that state. Also, I do not feel that it is fair to Clinton to drop votes that may have genuinely been hers.

    | Posted 1 year, 8 months ago


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